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I want to welcome our audience to this
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learned podcast it is in these podcasts
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that learn wants you to meet experts
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that can help you and your work as
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school leaders or perhaps Partners in
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the education landscape the topic for
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this podcast is counseling and support
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and our guest is Jeremy glauser CEO and
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founder of illuma a mental health
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solution for all students across Tier 1
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tier 2 and tier 3 including an online
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counseling support system for schools on
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the learn website you will find on the
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research page under the Coe of health
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and and the element of counseling
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support research in this area being
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discussed along with potential resources
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to access
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Jeremy I want to welcome you to the
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learn podcast it's really good to have
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you here to speak with us about this
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really important topic and a very
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relevant topic top of mind for a lot of
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superintendents and school districts
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today
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I know you have extension to be here
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thanks for having me Dave oh absolutely
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and I know you have an extensive
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research and work background in the area
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of counseling and Sport with a special
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focus on online support would you please
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share with the audience some of that
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background and experience
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absolutely it's great to be with you
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today hopefully some of the resources
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that we talk about can help these help
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you get these May amazing services to
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kids I've been in education
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um for 18 years and much of that has
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been on the technology side
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and uh spent a decade really bringing
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high quality professionals like LCSW
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School psychologists school counselors
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to the students through video
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conferencing Technologies and and others
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and uh you know it's it's really a
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passion of mine
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I my mission is to help kids achieve
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their full potential
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and this is just an incredible time
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where we finally feel like there's
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momentum there's so many kids who need
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the supports who are suffering and now
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that we have some momentum around
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addressing that with funding and
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programming we can hopefully make a big
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difference well I'm certain that you are
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and I know you're probably active in a
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lot of districts about how many
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districts have you been active in with
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this work and your prior work as well
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yeah we're approaching 200 districts
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Across the Nation that we work with
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and we sit in council with a lot of
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different organizations like CEC case
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nasp and others to really fully develop
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a solution for counseling and support
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and and really a full mtss support
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system for all kids and recently I I
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joined the Kennedy Forum school-based
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mental health Industry Council
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and what's exciting about that is that
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the Kent deform and Foundation is
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helping to create policy work around it
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and we also have some exciting
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developments
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um with government uh non-profit and
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for-profit organizations coming together
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and I'll be able to share more of that
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in the coming months as that comes
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together that'll be wonderful I know I'm
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hoping to have you on a live podcast in
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the future and it'd be wonderful to
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share that news and what that could mean
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and you know I you know right now
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especially this work is so important
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coming out of the kova pandemic we've
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seen so many reports around student
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mental health and even adult mental
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health now I know there's a ton of
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research out there and
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we can't possibly cover all that
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research in this short amount of time
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yeah but I'd like for you to share some
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key insights or information that you
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think is really important uh about that
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research and work that is out there
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around mental health uh supports I
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appreciate the opportunity there are two
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resources that I hope
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um people can take away from this the
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first one is from the US Department of
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Education and taking the approach of
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defining what mental health is in
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combination with behavioral and social
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emotional supports we get confused as a
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country at a large scale and even at a
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small scale when we start talking about
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these terms that intersect so much so
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I'll share that resource and and we can
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make it available it's a great one the
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other one that many of you have probably
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seen and you mentioned Dave is the the
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increase in suicide ideation has swept
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this country and there's actually a lot
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of research one of the researchers I've
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been following is Jonathan hate and then
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Gene twang also they've been doing a lot
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of cutting edge research around the
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spike in in
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mental health disorders predominantly
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depression and anxiety that also
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correlate with suicidal ideation and
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completion
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and uh the Advent of social media the
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the prominence of cyber interactions and
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bullying and and the impact being
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tremendous on our teams
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you know generally speaking ages 11 to
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14 uh having the highest impact females
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in particular males definitely but the
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emphasis on taking care of our youth
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helping them feel heard and seen so
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again I'm happy to share that research
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and how bringing supports through a
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combination of on-site and online
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practitioners and providers can really
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make a difference in a hybrid situation
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right and I'm I'm assuming a lot of this
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has been communicated to districts you
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work with and becomes a part of your uh
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kind of if you will DNA in that
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communication pattern would that be
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correct
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absolutely one of the things that
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districts I would recommend that every
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District does is a Readiness assessment
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no matter how mature the model is in the
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programming because there are always
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opportunities to say what are we doing
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well and where can we improve and then
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taking a full mtss programming approach
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to mtss
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so as a matter of fact we work with
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Pittsburgh Public Schools and they've
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taken this very approach and it's been
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incredibly successful
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but it wasn't at first right at first it
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was a it was a little messy and
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difficult and and the leaders in that
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District came together with commitment
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to serve these kids
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and uh at first it was hard to you know
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get Universal screeners going make sure
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the referral process was accurate the
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kids who needed this this service were
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getting the counseling that they needed
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but after some time and working in close
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partnership the wheels started turning
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and it's it's been a great success to
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the point where this partnership has now
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we've just entered into an extension for
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two more years and it shows a commitment
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from the school it shows confidence to
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the community and it gives the students
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a resource that they can start to rely
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on because of the consistency
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well you've just actually segued
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wonderfully and I'll give you an
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opportunity but one of the things I
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think is so important is districts go
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down a pathway of any kind of work that
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they do it's that they think about how
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they communicate that out to their
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internal and external communities and
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specifically those predictable positive
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outcomes you've just listed three
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um you know that you can communicate at
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on the onset of this work is there
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anything else you would say that's
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really vital to kind of communicate out
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to your public this will really be a
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positive outcome if you do this kind of
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work
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yeah you know it it it's very clear that
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that although mental health disorders
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and issues are not new
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the programming around it in a school
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setting is relatively new for a long
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time we would hear oh that's for the
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Health Care system
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and what we're finding is that the
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schools are are really positioned to
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help battle these mental health issues
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and so it's it's first recognizing that
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at schools we're battling a lot of
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fronts
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before we're really able to teach
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curriculum but I think that that's the
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evolution that we're going through is
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that the the need in our schools to
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address mental health among other things
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is critical to a student's learning so
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number one being programming and
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communicating out to our communities
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what are the key elements of our
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programming and to be to be able to do
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that we need to understand what our
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programming is around Universal
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screeners our referral process what does
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counseling look like once a student is
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referred and those are the the key
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Milestones that we can start to
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communicate statistically and and
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success stories around the other one is
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is long-term funding
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um so if we know what's if good looks
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like then how do we ensure that we have
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long-term funding and I believe that our
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country is figuring it out but it's kind
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of messy right now we don't have a
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single funding source that all district
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can you know uniformly rely on but there
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are great grants there's actually a
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grant right now called project aware the
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deadline is in late April
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to give you an idea of how this has
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grown last year there were about 2
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million available total this year
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there's about 40 million you can see the
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growing support and then of course you
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have the safer communities act which
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dedicated a billion we have Medicaid
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dollars uh and and so as a as a school
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system we're trying hard to figure out
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long-term funding and we'll get there we
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are getting there right and those
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numbers reflect obviously an awareness
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of the the need as well
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I agree with you yeah now like anything
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else there are potential implementation
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barriers that districts should be aware
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of what would you say are a couple of
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those that districts should think about
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if they're going down this pathway with
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your organization or others
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yeah the the real
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um limitation or struggle is the
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shortages and the burnout that we face
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in schools there's a capacity challenge
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that all districts seem to face
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and when a teacher is first hears this
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they think one more thing for me to do
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and I think the the big challenge that
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we have to acknowledge is that there is
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a capacity hurdle
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and we need to be Innovative in how we
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address that so the use of Technology
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there's lots of great Technologies out
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there not just illuma but others that
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that help to build capacity to create
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Insight the other one is the just the
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human innovating and how our kids
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interact with these amazing providers
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and yes in person is is important but
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virtual is also very important because
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we can pull great people into school
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buildings no matter where they are of
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course partnering with community-based
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centers is a staple to our a good mental
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health programming but they're even
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strapped and so you know the the real
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first step is that Readiness assessment
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let's assess where we bring technology
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and outside resources into build
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capacity for our districts because today
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we can't fully expect our people to be
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able to handle all of this on their own
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without absolutely and that's where
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technology could be so as you've already
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pointed out so vital to actually
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reducing the otherwise demands that
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would be on teachers or in-house
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Personnel to cover this this issue the
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capacity is not there and and it's
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unlikely to be there unless we support
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it with technology and so I really
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applaud your organization for doing that
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now if you would in mind please share
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with our audience how this work has
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impacted schools organizations or
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perhaps an individuals this is a chance
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just tell a story about this important
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work yeah I I think that uh storytelling
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is a very important part of what we do
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because it's easy to get caught away in
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the data and into the process and
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programming and we've been able to
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support over 40 000 kids
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across hundreds of districts all over
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the nation
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and I have the privilege of hearing some
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of these success stories and and really
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seeing the tremendous impact uh in a in
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a recent conversation with one of our
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districts in California they said oh my
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goodness we want our our counselor back
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next year doing it virtually is
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connected with our kids so tremendously
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well it's been so incredibly valuable
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we're also working with a a district in
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Montana that serves both a tribal nation
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and non-tribal Nation students and
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what's been incredible is that that
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district has been able to to bring
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someone in with illuma support who can
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empathize and understand a tribal Nation
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whereas they didn't have that resource
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and one of the biggest comments around
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counseling is
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being able to relate and empathize
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with someone who might look like you who
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has a background and a similar to you
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and being able to do that with this
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District in Montana this District
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district in California has had a
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tremendous impact on the diversity of
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those populations and and another one
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that I think is worth pointing out is is
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Pittsburgh Public Schools the whole goal
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there was to serve
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a an underserved community and a
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marginalized Community who wasn't able
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to access these critical mental health
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counseling supports outside of school
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so these kids who normally wouldn't have
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those services
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now get them
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and and there are counselors that look
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like them that relate to them that can
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help them and and it's something that
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we're really you know excited about
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and looking to partner with
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forward-thinking districts to really
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have a big impact on the mental health
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needs of kids across this nation
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it's interesting Jeremy because you
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pointed out three different kinds of
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districts and you know out there you
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know I'm here in Texas obviously we have
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a diversity of districts just like every
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place across the United States
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and so you know what's obviously
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important is being able for a district
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to be able to connect with like
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districts to see this kind of work so
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what what I'm going to ask you is just
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simply if a district was interested in
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exploring more deeply
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um into this work and really start
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connecting with districts how they go
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about contacting you and arranging for a
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deeper conversation yeah we invited we
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we really do look to have conversations
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to see how we can partner uh because
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this is new for you it's new for this
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country and we bring a lot of uh
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potential experience and expertise that
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can benefit our website is illuma.com
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you can find a lot more information
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there and then my email is jayglauser
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illuma.com J and then and then my last
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name and and I invite you to reach out I
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love connecting and collaborating
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because really truly it's going to take
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not just illuma and not just the
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district but a lot of Partnerships and
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communities government private
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for-profit non-profit and and I am very
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optimistic about the momentum that we've
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built and appreciate the opportunity to
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share some good information with your
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audience today David thank you Jeremy
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and I especially thank you for being a
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part of the important work of supporting
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our students in schools and thank you
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for your participation in a learn
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